Q&A Thosha's playthrough

Thosha

allwillshatter She just said the rest of the drop tables will be changed in the next update

Invictus455

Alright, I crunched the numbers on the secret stats after the war. For those that want to keep track, here's what they look like:

(Thosha) Simon's secret stats at the start of chapter 4, after the 3rd Arclent war

Economy: 82
Social: 34
Religion: 25

Army Size/Quality: 175/27
(171/27 without city regulations or focusing on yhilin troops in ardoheim 3, this DOES result in one less extension for the Erosian war (175 is the threshold), so if you're trying to route around for the excavation, you WILL need to focus on your own troops)

Arclent acceptance: 41

Yhilin: 35
Aram: 14
Ardoheim: 24
Eustrin: 11
Ghenalon: 4
Zirantia: 14
Darghelon: 7
Gheldaron: 6
Tatseni: 1
Stenai: 1
Orgasmic Empire: 4
Chalice States: 40
New Givini: 17
Tak'Kan: 14
Erosia: 0
Rodak: 0

swears

Invictus455 Just an FYI but I just tried the worn armor/dagger Simon AGI boost tactic with the newest release and the big spiders are still faster than Simon. Not sure if something got reconfigured since you last tried it but it didn't work for me at least

GeneralXen

swears Didn't think to use Aka's old iron dagger...combine the above with Aka's Headband that should be enough.

lsc

Going into the final battle, there are quite a few unused divine shards. Are those being kept in reserve for a reason, or is this another item that will be implemented once the whole game is out?

GeneralXen

lsc Divine shards are supposed to be player choice, the ones Thosha instructed you to give on had mechanical benefits. We wager the next update should be the last opportunity for anymore mechanical benefits to pop up, so that might be when Thosha will be more comfortable instructing readers to spend them as desired.

Thosha

GeneralXen Correct, I couldn't say it better

swears

GeneralXen Ah, I'm not sure if I had the headband on Simon or not but seems likely not. I'll give that a shot if I start over again

Invictus455

More secret stat values, these ones are after the first succession crisis (since investments affect them a lot you may want to keep track of what changes with each investment. the mini quests are generally for more acceptance)

Economy: 104
Social: 38
Religion: 26

Arclent acceptance: 50

Yhilin: 35
Aram: 14
Ardoheim: 40
Eustrin: 11
Ghenalon: 4
Zirantia: 15
Darghelon: 7
Gheldaron: 8
Tatseni: 1
Stenai: 1
Orgasmic Empire: 4
Chalice States: 43
New Givini: 29
Tak'Kan: 32
Erosia: 0
Rodak: 0

Invictus455

(Thosha) Simon's secret stats after exploring the depths

Economy: 116
Social: 40
Religion: 28

Arclent acceptance: 56

Yhilin: 36
Aram: 16
Ardoheim: 41
Eustrin: 11
Ghenalon: 7
Zirantia: 16
Darghelon: 7
Gheldaron: 7
Tatseni: 3
Stenai: 6
Orgasmic Empire: 4

Chalice States: 46

New Givini: 35

Tak'Kan: 43

Erosia: 11
Rodak: 0

Invictus455

After the Return to Stenai

Economy: 127
Social: 53
Religion: 40

Arclent acceptance: 69

Yhilin: 38
Aram: 22
Ardoheim: 51
Eustrin: 15
Ghenalon: 7
Zirantia: 16
Darghelon: 15
Gheldaron: 15
Tatseni: 3
Stenai: 12
Orgasmic Empire: 4

Chalice States: 56

New Givini: 45

Tak'Kan: 62

Erosia: 11
Rodak: 0

allwillshatter

Hey there. I'm finishing up the Incubus War Aftermath. I deviated from the playthrough at the Aram Vineyard and sent Sabitha to stop Palina's rape. I've gotta say, I know Simon gets two recovery points from talking to her if she was raped, but it just feels.. wrong to intentionally recommend that for an optimized playthrough. Especially since there are numerous other opportunities for recovery points. I had five of them pre-Incubus Prison without even realizing I'd collected them. People that haven't played the game before might and probably do use your guide, and they'll be blind-sided by what is an avoidable and horrible situation. It's up to the player, and Sabitha is very helpful elsewhere, I get it, but she's not required for the best possible outcome in those areas, is she? I definitely wouldn't consider allowing a rape, fictional or otherwise to be the best possible outcome for Aram's section in the aftermath. I'm sorry if I'm coming off as rude or judgemental, I just take that stuff seriously and I would ask that you please consider adding a small disclaimer in that section of what happens when you don't send Sabitha to the Aramite Fort.

Thosha

allwillshatter I'll look into it, I follow your sentiment in that regard

swears

Thosha Just curious cuz I never followed that path but how does it change the scene with Simon and No Face Meanie after the Incubus Prison if Sabitha saves the day?

allwillshatter

swears No Face Meanie(that's an adorable nickname, thanks Qum) brings up a projection of Palina, Simon demands to know what No Face Meanie has done, he invites Simon to take a look, then the projection of Palina disappears and we transition to a short scene that describes that the soldiers at the Aramite Fort were turning on their own due to No Face Meanie's influence, when suddenly a transformed Sabitha shows up, takes one of the controlled soldiers into her maw and bite them in half and then chews through the rest of the of ones affected by No Face Meanie, ruining his plans before they could really even start. It's pretty satisfying how frustrated and annoyed No Face Meanie is there and poor Simon is so confused. No Face Meanie improvises and escapes another way, where he is still killed(?) by a certain someone. I wasn't entirely sure he died there, but according to the wiki, he did, so eh. RIP No Face Meanie. Nothing of value was lost.

allwillshatter

Thosha Thank you. Again, I'm truly sorry if I came off rude or accusatory or anything. I promise I genuinely didn't and don't believe anything was done maliciously, I just take that stuff very seriously. Thanks for the reply! ♥

Thosha

swears Basically, Sabitha comes in and murders most of the Aram rapists

Thosha

allwillshatter I'm looking into it, from what I was able to understand from the code, having Sabitha go to Aram would make her unavailable for the Ivala Push (to free her). For now I think the only downside to this is that you lose 2 arclent acceptance, which I can live with. I am looking at anything I might have missed, otherwise I will change it to avoid Palina's rape. The primary reason for not stopping her rape was that it gave no mechanical advantage to do so. However, if all we lose is 2 arclent acceptance I am very much inclined to avoid it. I'll let you know what I come up with later, but thanks for bringing it to my attention and I don't feel offended at all, dont worry ^^
For now I will add it to my list of planned changes. Unless I find a reason not to, I will implement preventing Palina's rape.

allwillshatter

Thosha Thank you! And of course, I'm happy to help! ♥

allwillshatter

Thosha I managed to keep my RP with Mithyn high enough to get the material lust and material purity but I'm not sure where they are? They're not in key items, anyway. Might be like how the Divine Shards only show up in the Shards projection.

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