Bugs thread

DukeLeto7

ThruTHEhead Sierra decided to make the edit. There may or may not be a new release upcoming to cut down on the re-reports of ledger bugs where the fixes are done but unreleased.

riamu

During Nalili's Request, upon entering the Training Grounds and having NOT dealt with the Succubus Elite from the Fighting Ring during Simon's Route, the sparkly to learn Dominate still appears, leading to a repeat of the dialogue of Simon leaving the Orgasmic Empire and then a transition to a blank screen.

DukeLeto7

riamu This one's a doddle, gave Sierra the fix details on Patreon, it will surely be taken care of in the public update 1.1.x.

By any chance did you keep a save from before you triggered the bug? It'd be helpful to retest it in the patched version to make doubly sure it got squished.

riamu

DukeLeto7 Thank you!

Here is a save from that playthrough, just before activating the quest: https://drive.proton.me/urls/BRZPPNTH68#oYdKfJqtDpB8

Joiplayuser1

DukeLeto7 question how do I play the game on joiplay because I really don't know

DukeLeto7

Joiplayuser1
I'm told this page has useful information, but I don't really know anything about JOIPlay myself.

https://thelastsovereign.miraheze.org/wiki/Running_TLS_without_Windows

Maxwell87

I think I have a bug report for the 1.1.3 version on Steam. In Ch 4 during the first Ghenalese Battlefield section, I can't seem to find a way to get "completely stopped the enemy advance" outcome. I used saveeditonline to check the file, the variable (says Variable#307) for the Ghenalon Assistance is only at 14 despite the Erosian War guide wiki saying I should have 17. I changed that variable to 17 on the save editor, loaded that save, and I was able to force the "completely stopped enemy advance" to trigger that way.
1 - Talk to Orc mage
2 - Talk to Kalant
3 - Talk to Iron Cudgel
4 - Talk to Ghenalese Mage
5 - Extra for Purity research
6 - Talk to Mestan
7-10 - Kill each Orc horde
11 - Supply Crates
12 - Talk to small house guard
14 - Dari part of the harem
15 - Orcsphere in possesion
16 - Talk to Balia
17 - Talk to Orc Mage again.

When I reach the 2nd part of the Ghenalese Battlefield, Dari doesnt show up despite being part of the harem, maxed out RP, and talking with unitelligible guy to save the people in the house. Is there another factor besides just being in the harem that needs to be done for Dari to be there?

DukeLeto7

Maxwell87 (Why am I looking at this instead of letting Grim8P handle it?)

Having the Orcsphere grants +1 Ghenalon (Variable #89), NOT +1 Ghenalon Assist (Variable #307). That get's us to 16.

My working hypothesis based on what you did not mention would be that you got -2 Ghenalon Assist by fighting and defeating the "probe orcs" group that Robin mentions you shouldn't fight. They only appear when you chose to send troops early rather than holding back before the start of the war.

Dari should appear slightly to the left of the building you spawn beside during Ghenalon II. Her appearance depends on Switch #3488: Dari Appears and either Switch #2369: DARI NEW or #2370: DARI OLD being on. 3488 should have been switched on by talking with the unintelligible guy.

If it interests you at all, unintelligible guy is speaking in English encoded in ROT13, a simple Caesarian Cypher where the letters of the alphabet are replaced by the letter 13 spaces further down (looping around to A after reaching Z). When the Erosian War content was released, I saw that it was probably a Caesar Cypher and worked out what the code was using the classical decryption method of alphabet frequency analysis. Then someone came along and pointed out it was ROT13 and I felt silly. (I refer to Dari's unnamed home country as ROT13istan.)

The translation is:

Warrior: Terrgvatf! (Greetings!)

Warrior: Qbag NAL bs lbh fcrnx zl ynathntr? (Dont ANY of you speak my language?)

Warrior: Svar, whfg vtaber zr. (Fine, just ignore me.)

Warrior: V unir ab vqrn jung lbher fnlvat. (I have no idea what youre saying.)

Warrior: Lbh ner rkprcgvbanyyl fgebat. (You are exceptionally strong.)

Then Dari can appear and the conversation depends on whether she is in human or monster form.

Human form:

Dari: Terrgvatf! (Greetings!)

Warrior: Terrgvatf! Ner lbh bhe pbhageljbzna? (Greetings! Are you our countrywoman?)

Dari: Lhc! Vir orra njnl n ybat gvzr, fb yrg zr uryc rkcynva... (Yup! Ive been away a long time, so let me help explain...)

Monster form:

Dari: Terrgvatf! (Greetings!)

Warrior: T-terrgvatf... (G-greetings...)

Warrior: Vir arire frra fhpu n greevoyr ivfntr... (Ive never seen such a terrible visage...) (sic. Need to report that.)

Dari: Qbag jbeel, V qbag ovgr gbb uneq. (Dont worry, I dont bite too hard.)

Warrior: Lbhe pybgurf ner snzvyvne, naq lbh fcrnx bhe ynathntr jryy... (Your clothes are familiar, and you speak our language well...)

Dari: N ybg unf unccrarq gb zr. Ohg yrg zr uryc rkcynva... (A lot has happened to me. But let me help explain...)

If you talk to the warrior guy later, if Dari showed up he says:

Warrior: Gur fgenatr bar vf urycvat hf svtug jvgu gur Turanyrfr. (The strange one is helping us fight with the Ghenalese.) (No idea why the language encodes "Ghenalese" instead of just using it as a loanword, it's just a game...)

Alternately if Dari did not appear:

Warrior: Vir arire frra fb znal sbervtaref... (Ive never seen so many foreigners...)

Maxwell87

DukeLeto7 Thanks for the clarification on the Orcsphere, and the info on the warrior! I did hold back my troops at the beginning of the war, so I didn't get that prompt from Robin about the probe orcs. It seems like the 2 assistance points missing from Dari is what I'm missing.
I just looked at a save file I have after Battlefield 1 with me talking to the Warrior in a save editor, and if I'm reading it correctly, switch 3488 has a null value. Switch 2369 is set to True.

Grim8P

DukeLeto7
I dunno but you're welcome to keep looking into bugs. 😂

Maxwell87
I didn't know Duke had been responding here when I responded to you on Patreon, but for the sake of being clear about everything, I'll post my response here as well:

I took a look at the wiki and compared it to what is in 1.1.3 and the wiki is correct. If you want to jump in the official Sierra Lee Discord server, throw your save in #help-me-chat and someone can help you figure out what is going on.
https://discord.gg/jKMncKyTZ7

If you and Duke figured it out, no need to jump in Discord though.

DukeLeto7

Maxwell87 Check Switch 2372 before talking to the Warrior, then talk to him again, and then tell me EXACTLY what happens when you do.

Maxwell87

DukeLeto7 Before talking to him Switch 2372 says Null. After talking, it still says Null

In game, Aka says she hopes the army can protect you, "yes, thank you", warrior speaks, Aka says "so...these guys", Robin says she can't think of a way to communicate and we'll leave them for someone else.

DukeLeto7

Maxwell87 OK, so Dari DOES NOT appear after the Warrior is brought back within the lines and have the conversation I unnecessarily wrote out in detail?

What appears to be happening is that Dari has not actually joined the harem. For this to happen you need to talk to her in headquarters kitchen after she gets unwomaned when Variable #133 Dari is >= 80 if she's reverted to human form and >= 85 if she's kept in monster form. You then get a sex scene.

If you did that and you don't have switch 2372 on, we've got a problem. Doublecheck your value for Variable #133 as well.

Maxwell87

DukeLeto7 Got the sex scene (also the Steam Achievement for having her join the harem and the loyalty achievement). Variable 133 has a value of 123.
I'm going to go back to a save before the Erosian war tomorrow, and try activate Dari's harem joining again and see if I get the same issue. Maybe I didn't save after having her join for some reason and I just don't remember. I'll let you know when I get back to the Ghenalese Battlefield.

Maxwell87

Maxwell87 I guess I'm just an idiot and didnt save after Dari joins the harem. Just ran through the beginning of the war and she showed up this time. Thanks for looking into this with me and sorry for wasting y'all's time.

DukeLeto7

Maxwell87 Game quality is an important goal. We in the TLS community like to make sure it's as bug free as possible so you get the value for the money you didn't pay.

Unlike, for example, Ubisoft.

JeffreySpieler

Interesting bug to report.
During the succession crisis, if you don't ever enter Kalant's room the flag for the scripted scene is never cleared. So I walked into his room for the first time during the Succession finale and got the scripted scene. But what makes this more interesting is that once you get control again, you can interact with Riala and go to the succession crisis's projection. This cuts you out of the finale and once you try to leave the projection you end up back in the royal halls of New Ghivini. The crystal to start the finale is still where it was before but some stuff after that is bugged from entering a second time. This seems like it can be solved just by clearing the Kalant scripted scene flag off that room once the succession crisis is over.
I am playing on the steam release version 1.1.2 at this time.

MaxKzd

And another cool bug I observed in Final Fight - after Altina learns Arcane Storm and she uses it in Northern locus battle - Altina cleared all remaining enemies with Fire Storm, and when I entered next battle she cast Lightning Storm and Ice Storm immediately ;-)

DukeLeto7

MaxKzd great... this one appears to be built into the game engine... Not even sure it CAN be fixed...

Thanks!

Thosha

scpdrclef123 reported a small bug to me from a recent update:
Qum x Ogre scene in Yarra's path was made optional and had a second switch available that did the same thing (hug: switch 5720). This switch however does not give a +5 Fheliel RP score when first calculating her RP
I doubt this is intended since I don't think SL supports NTR (she even made an update to make alternatives possible)

DukeLeto7

Thosha Well, it's definitely either an oversight or an intentional choice, but I'll pass it along with the other reports I've been procrastinating.

(I don't get paid enough for this...)

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