Bugs thread

DukeLeto7

Thosha Well, it's definitely either an oversight or an intentional choice, but I'll pass it along with the other reports I've been procrastinating.

(I don't get paid enough for this...)

Thosha

DukeLeto7 You get paid??? I've been working for free...

DukeLeto7

Thosha Getting paid -$10 a month is not enough.

It is technically worse than slavery.

Grim8P

I too am paid -$10 a month...

cgh

And all three of you have done a superb job over the past several years. Someone once said that the best things we do in life are not because we are paid but because we like doing it and doing it well.

womorazi

on the map "tower's heart" there are multiple small out of bound walkable tiles.
i found 3 (without testing all possible places).
they are all on a tile which is the foundation of the platform we are walking in, the crystals pointing downward as the basement.
the easier to describe is at the westernmost end, above the breakable rock (1 stamina) and left of a sword stuck in the ground,
also movement in the area of the removed stone (after removal) are whacky, sometimes i move up while trying to move sideways. or cannot advance up or down until after i moved sideway.

DukeLeto7

womorazi OK, the main one was pretty easy. Misdefinition of what is walkable and what isn't in the tileset. Assuming I give Sierra the bugfix list I've been working on before she plans on releasing the next update (whenever that is), it will be fixed in the next update.

Movement in the area of the removed stone is a little strange. The events comprising the rock are not cleared as one would normally expect, but there are events that automatically move the player through the area. This is clearly intentional... I just have no idea what the intention would have been. I'll put in a note for Sierra.

DukeLeto7

womorazi OK, the movement through the boulder area is a bit more complicated, but I think what Sierra's currently go going on is unnecessary, and that will probably also be fixed.

Thosha

Don't know if this is intentional or not, but Sho, doesn't have a bust icon. She is a pretty important tertiary character that joins Balia in our headquarters later on in the game. I feel that she should be given a bust icon. Maybe not in chapter 1 since she is not relevant then, but later on when she joins us in the TAW.

DukeLeto7

Thosha Will relay. Not sure how practical it would be to have Annikath and/or Lamsey extrapolate a bust from the face art that is presumably all that already exists.

Thosha

I don't know if this is intended but there is a total of 3 true gold in the game, 1 is used for Iris's request, 1 for Megail's Gold Cloak, but one sits uselessly in our inventory. Don't know if this was intended as a buffer but at least let us sell it if there is no use for it (it is true gold). Or have an NPC that is a gold expert/enthusiast that is willing to give something cool for it (nothing game-breaking).

DukeLeto7

Thosha Okay. Will relay.

guhdf

in the final battle used the final potion to save neranda. but in the epilogue she's still dead. although i can see her in riala's shard projection.
in the ardford summit. I had funded the shrine to dwarves so they said would follow my vote. on the first vote, they voted the opposite of what i told em.

DukeLeto7

guhdf Neranda staying dead is a known bug, will be fixed in the next release.

Need more info on the dwarves at the Ardford Summit, that content has been thought to be working for a long time.

If you mean the vote on whether to declare a pre-emptive war, they will ALWAYS abstain, and that's the intended behavior. The vote will fail regardless of how you vote. The dwarven delegate will take your advice on some matters but not others.

guhdf

DukeLeto7 it's been a long time so hard to remember. but based on the wiki i think it was the day 2 defense pact. more confidently i recall they said they could abstain or follow my vote. i chose to follow my vote and they voted the opposite instead of abstaining. for the defense pact i said to form it.

guhdf

the wiki also says the dwarves can only do one changed vote a day. but i believe they gave me multiple. i'm assuming there's always an interim between the votes in a day to talk to the dwarves again.

DukeLeto7

guhdf The choices you get before the second day's votes are:

Defense Pact: Vote Yes
Unperson Motion: Vote No

You can't pick more than one. It may be possible that you canceled out of the choice and were able to select again, but only the second one would count.

They vote yes instead of abstaining on the defense pact if you choose option 1, and they choose abstain on the Unperson motion if you ask them to vote no (which is effectively the same) and vote yes otherwise.

The options they give you for the third day's vote are vary based on whether you choose to press for orc extermination or oppose it. Either way you can pick:

Alliance: Abstain (They abstain but vote yes otherwise.)
War Vaults Opening: Vote Yes (They vote yes but abstain otherwise.)

But if you oppose orc extermination, you can also choose:

Orc Eradication: Abstain (They abstain but vote yes otherwise.)

How does that match with your experience?

guhdf

DukeLeto7
I had Yhilin support orc extermination.
Pretty sure had dwarves vote yes on war vaults.
believe they offered me an option for the unpersons, but ending up ignoring em
had yhilin oppose the third day alliance, and believe I told the dwarves I wanted that
edit: for the defense pact i believe that i both had yhilin form it and told the dwarves i wanted it

DukeLeto7

guhdf It is not possible for you to have asked the dwarves both to vote yes on the war vaults and abstain from the alliance vote, they are mutually exclusive.

I copied the options that are available for both days verbatim from the game code, "offered me an option for the unpersons" is not an option. If you asked them to change their vote to no, they would have abstained. I would respectfully suggest that what you are remembering is that you expected them to vote no, but they abstained, and you misread this as them ignoring you. Abstention is the same as a no under the rules of the summit.

I'm reading the game's code. Because what you're describing can't happen and you admit that your memory is hazy, I have to reject this as a bug unless you can provide a save file in which it's possible to reproduce the bug. (@Grim8P might overrule me on this, but I don't think so.) It's REMOTELY possible that you're playing someone's fan mod of the game, but I haven't heard of any besides Decanter's Ch1 Altina Rescue and that didn't include the summit content.

Sorry.

guhdf

A separate thing. For wynn's request when you finish things up and choose where to place stuff. Zirantia is listed under new nations instead of old nations

DukeLeto7

guhdf This is intended. RPG Maker can only support 4 choices in ordinary circumstances, so it was more convenient to separate it into two sets of four in which Zirantia is "New". (It is only ₂₅ years old at the time the choice is made.)

Grim8P

DukeLeto7 The wiki was correct the last time I looked. The only thing close to this that I can think of is a choice where they offer to vote on different things in a single selection but you can still only select one choice.

If there is a save file with instructions on how to reproduce the issue, we can look into it more.

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