Calculator 0.17.0 [temp release] v0.17.0: https://www.mediafire.com/file/x2adbt8psifml2b/Calculator.0.17.0.rar/file Added Nalili Quest. @Grim8P asked a functioning nalili quest, so i'm doing this half release with that. work are progressing an acceptable rate in the previous weeks, i hope to keep that pace. v0.16.1 Added Dari quest and Ardoheim Succession Crisis part 2. the state of the calculator isn't changed from the previous release, so there is a lot of works to do to bring it to a decent level of polishing. but the global feel was to have a release a fast as possible, so it's here. for the 0.68.* content: varia and nalili quest will take some time, expecially for nalili, i'm reusing the "engine" for the wynn quest with a couple of assumption to don't excalate the complexyty of the code without reasons (the repetable lessons will be added at the start of the quest or i need to build like 50 numeric field for each activity to let you take any activity it any order you want, eg: 2 day of social training, go to office and doing the admin boost, go for other 2 social training then 2 knowledge training, go for 1 sex training, then do other 2 knowledge training and then other 3 social) it will take significative time to write everything, and if i can i want clean a bit the mess it's the calculator Updated the Calculator with the 0.66.2 content and fixed reported bugs. I cutted corner, a lot of them, the "skipped" version isn't update and there are some quick shortcut in the code to make it works "good enough" for the moment, but need some reworks. Uyae quest expecially, i discover later the need to replicate the "engine" for wynn quest for it, but for the moment should works as intended. some edge cases for the ability to set zirantia slum option can be wrong, but heavy testing of that part it's pointless because will rewrite the code from scratch. I'm still in the process to purge all the joke rp gain by "ivala" from the calculator, check for match with the true ivala rp score and ignore the joke one. v0.16.1: Add Dari Quest Add Ardoheim Succession Crisis Part 2 Add Button to Collapse all the Sections Add a Select for Quick Jump to specific Sections v0.16.0 Add Janine Quest Add Carina Quest Add Uyae Quest Add Balia Quest Add Altina Quest Add Yarra Quest Add Wendis Quest Add Ginasta Quest Add Lilith Recruitment Add Trin Quest Added Philon Questline Updated Simon Recovery calculation full change log below Open Post: The Tool is developed with the goal of being an all-inclusive hidden stats calculator, helping to keep track of all decision/hidden stats for tailoring the 'best' outcome one want for his playthrough. Near all the possibility are implemented, event the suboptimal one [for now there are very few exceptions for some technical problems in the implementation]. any activity without effect in the hidden stats or changing options in the future are omitted (a notable example is the "rick's Familiy" quest) or the extra loot you can obtain from various chests. The tool is still in beta because I don't think is the right shape for a '1.0' release, but all the feature are implemented and working (well, aside for the bugs), the tool lack some polishing (for example, remove Altina RP stamp if she isn't a party member), and there are some 'extra' feature can be implemented, but I am not sure if the gain is enough to compensate the extra works, for example a list for trin copied people and the list of investment at the end of each section. the tool features an option panel with some customization, show or hide the 'result box' for each section, the option to hide each RP values o countrry scores, and the ability to choose between two 'version' for any chapter, the full version is, well, more verbose, but implement a full set of constraining in the thing can be or cannot be done in the game, the 'skipped' version [any advice for a better name is appreciated] try to reduce the number of inputs to the minimum, the two versions are the same in regard of choice and calculation. The skipped version allow 'cheating' some global currency like discretionary funds, personal discrectionary funds, ProN, Trin Copies and Sarai Synod influence. The calculator is an HTML page with JavaScript to handling all the works. It doesn't need any internet connection, external library or extra feature, the code is still crude, and my JS coding skill isn't great, any advice to improve the tool is really appreciated. Change Log v0.16.0 Add Janine Quest Add Carina Quest Add Uyae Quest Add Balia Quest Add Altina Quest Add Yarra Quest Add Wendis Quest Add Ginasta Quest Add Lilith Recruitment Add Trin Quest Added Philon Questline Updated Simon Recovery calculation Change Log v0.15.3: add qum quest fixed in wynn quest accuracy gain for stineford succubus tower add lamia talk in gasm fall for simon recovery add orcent philonese bar talk add simon full recovery with mithyn and ivala joining Change Log v0.15.2: removed the possibility to advance iris' quest in orgasmic emporium during the second gathering fixed the miscalculation in ardford influence durign IW aftermath tied to interrogate the priestess but not copy her during succession crisis fixed the problem with pay 10K pron for resettling the succubus threesome in orgasmic cafe fix the problem in zirantia section of IW aftermat if you order the fleet to keep order fix swapped zirantia country score gain for slum remodeling (nup/ozl) fix incorrect room for mother guard in elf palace during incubus war aftermath Add the talking with the succubus trio in simon route a requisite for interaction with them post second gathering Change Log v0.15.1: Fixed ProN Return in Chapter 5 first iteration Add key item incubus sword in the chapter 5 third iteration and full game infobox v0.15.0 Change Log: Added Third Chapter 5 iteration with all the common activity with the previous iteration Added Wynn's Harem Quest [during the testing phase deselect only the last action or the calculator will beheave weird Added Simon Recovery opportunity, full recovery not implemented yet Add a Total ProN Gained for Chapter and for Full game in the expected return and end report info box v0.14.2 Change Log: Fix a bad id in ginasta bonus rp calculation in erosia prelude section add the explicit new givini country score used in retunr calculation for givini orc merchant pron return in the return line. v0.14.1 Change Log: add missing shining sword in tower knot fix an id in girl talk feedback in rp calculation v0.14.0 Changelog: Added Incubus War Aftermath Add at the end of Each Section the List of the Maxable/Lockable Girls in that Section. Moved the Uyae-Orcent Bar Chat Chapter 4 Second Iteration to Chapter 4 First Iteration Add Succubus Tower Bar Talk in Chapter 5 First Iteration Added Totally Normal Little Girl Talk in the Relevant Section for Rp Calculation in the Last Section (Post Succession Crisis, Post Xestris Evaluation, Erosia Prelude Setup and Post Erosia Prelude) Added Full Tooltips and Math to the Erosian Prelude and Stenai Trip. [Sections Update Pending: Synod, Erosia Invasion and Return to Stineford] Remove the Possibility to Talk with Iris in the Orgasmic Empire Emporium During the Gathering if Already Completed Her Quest Before Start the Gathering Full Changelog: https://pastebin.com/93Jzhp55

Fulminato there seem to be a few errors. One is that I think there's a missed check in the robin stand during the Thenours War and in the same section the Teraurak check did not count ancient Incubus King glove

zaiaku666 there seem to be a few errors. (1) One is that I think there's a missed check in the robin stand during the Thenours War and in the same section (2) the Teraurak check did not count ancient Incubus King glove i check but all robin bonus are implemented and working, which would it be the missing check? Incubus glove (the one recovered in givini ruins) isn't a piece of the ancient IK set key items. the four items are armor [deep cache in devil pass], helm [open the war vaults], shield [riala petition in war aftermath] and pin [complete givini ruins]. the incubus glove grant a +2 in the DK - FL confrontation (zirantia palace entrance)

Fulminato Error was on my part forgot the political reserve for the IK Shield.

v0.11.0: http://www.mediafire.com/file/rjj69007swl810i/Calculator_0.11.0.rar/file Add ginasta rescue and the second gathering section. extended the tooltips to cover the first chapter 4 and succession crisis section. [other section pending]

I like the new tooltips very much. In general the Calculator, while already incredible good and useful, is only getting better and better. Thanks for the hard work.

I am once again asking if someone has an up-to-date optimized calculator save state?

v0.11.1: http://www.mediafire.com/file/35tqlmuyn3ijkri/Calculator.0.11.1.rar/file Change Tertia RP Check for joining the harem to benefit of eustrin final rp gains and changed an incorrect reply fro chapter 2 travel timer. Olaroll i think there are some around, but which kind of run you want?

Fulminato Just a standard min-maxed one. Figured someone's bound to have made one and I'd rather avoid spoilers by not planning it out myself. Out of curiosity, are there even different kinds? (Without major spoilers after finding a certain giant lady)

There are choices, like whoring Qum or the Varia choice, which will affect minmaxing in a serious fashion. An optimized Qum-whored playthrough is very different from an optimized not-whored playthrough.

Ah right, forgot that whoring Qum is even an option. Not doing it has always seemed like a no-brainer to me ^_^ Likewise, I've always gone with saner Altina and reshaped Varia.

Calculator

QiQi

Fulminato I proposed it as a sort of short term quick fix, like something goes wrong, you correct it, you talk about it, and zoo. But yeah.

One thing I recently noticed is about Princess Reletima and her maid Renna is that you can do it at the end of Stenai Trip, and not necessary on the next 'page'. Same with the Yellow Candles. it's tiny, but it's something.

Videospirit

QiQi

Was the erosia prelude section based on Xestris evaluation of your defenses or on the magic stat directly? If it's the former, editing your magic value right before the Erosia Prelude check wouldn't do anything.

Either way, I advise you to use the wiki itself to double check your hidden values. Try to figure out why the calculator's values are different from your own values. The calculator is purely based on game logic, so to debug the calculator you need to figure out what errors in logic the calculator has. Looking at the game logic yourself can help you rule out human error as well.

Videospirit

QiQi

For example, this is the wiki page that goes over the HQ magic stat

https://thelastsovereign.miraheze.org/wiki/Headquarters#Magic

You can look at that, and try to figure out what is giving you the extra +1 Magic compared to your calculator save. Double check to make sure you didn't forgot to check a box in the calculator for something you did in your playthrough.

Not all magic comes from investments too, talking to the little girl in extradimensional HQ adds +1 magic for example.

thisgamething

Found a minor bug, only with the tooltip, not anything mechanical. In the Third Arclant War aftermath, the global tooltip incorrectly indicates that the Succubus Slavery Change provides a +5 increase to New Givini score, but in reality this is a +2. This is NOT reflected in the actual math the calculator does, that part correctly increases New Givini by 2, NOT 5. So its JUST the tooltip that has a problem.

Fulminato

QiQi i'm finaly able to check the bug reports in details. but after checking very thoroughly simon route early passage the inability to talk of the dream when the calculator show seem a problem with the one-day cooldown all dialogue with esthera and nalili had.

you cannot talk about the dream the day right after the dream itself (if you talk with her about the captured succubi the day before the dream). you need to do at least one activity incrementing the daycount.

and as i said previous build the code for handling the on day cooldown will be a monster code with little utility. i implemented in the calculator all the other requisite, tho.

QiQi the result in erosia prelude attack to the HQ is based not on your magic stat, but xestris' evaluation of your magic in the section before. if you still possess the save you should check the switches 2759 and 2760 (average/strong defenses), for the magic missing, there isn't a lot of magic gain to this point, should be easly pinpoint the missing.

thisgamething it's inccorect tak'kan country score gain (+2 not +5) as well, fixed.

Seriathus

I found a problem with the personal discretionary fund (the one for the slum House of Petitions) in the calculator.
According to the wiki, your funds for that are determined by how much ProN you get in profits at the Reunion (it should be 100% for 1.6 million ProN, minus 10% for every 100k ProN less) and my playthrough has me getting 1.5 million, which should give me a discretionary of 90%. Yet, the Calculator seems to think that gives me only 80%.

The issue seems to be that either the information on the wiki is incomplete and Megail's 300k ProN reinvestment as well as the mandatory 250k ProN army expense aren't counted, meaning that you actually need to have 1.5 million ProN total at the Reunion, or the calculator is wrong.

Fulminato

Seriathus were you are take that information? it isn't accurate.
this is the real calculation: https://pastebin.com/TL5dMhut

PS: i'm working in the calculator update. after that i will adress any bug reported here and put a new release.

Seriathus

Fulminato From the footnote on the wiki page on discretionary income.

Fulminato

Seriathus the note should report a link to my pastebin. the same i linked to you. the "take reunion profit and..." was a very wrong info in the wiki, but was rectifyed ages ago.

Seriathus

Fulminato Alright, I guess that's not an issue then. Goddamnit, Sierra, that was some real pain in the ass goal to reach 😃

I guess no sexual/arcane magic agreement, then.

PopeBiscuit

As of 0.58.3. there is a miscalculation in the calculator regarding the Second Gathering. I followed Thosha's guide and arrived at the following values post Pan Succubus Council.
Influence: 13 (correct in calculator)
Orgasmic: 11 (incorrect in calculator, save editor shows 12)
Rodak: 6 (incorrect in calculator, 5)
Philon: 10 (correct)
As a result the calculator shows that I did not achieve the slavery reform check when I did. I haven't seen the last two checks (collateral damage and Lustlord harem) but they will be accurate to what the calculator says either way.

Fulminato

PopeBiscuit it's just a bit to generic. i need some contenxt...

PopeBiscuit

Fulminato
You're right, it was late when I made that post sorry about that. The following decisions were made at the Gathering following Thosha's guide:

Day 1: "Hint for Esthera to call out", "Support Anak Xerces", "Remain silent" and "Extend olive branch to Lustlord"

Day 2: "Prioritize attractiveness"
Investigate Skullpounder's chambers
"Reduce slave presence"
Orcent lost in round 3, elites won all 4 fights.

Day 3: "Expensive or Chilling", "Join the Empress', "Big spiky dildos"
Investigate Nyst

Day 4: "Approach Mestan directly"
Loot all 7 chests, complete race in 45 seconds. Got best prize.

Day 5: Attack Nyst twice (east), talk to the Empress "Take territory", talk to Mestan "Tell him to fend for himself", Talk with the Lustlord "Don't attack", talk with Anak twice "Give Xestris mana", talk with Tanurak (make him leave), talk with the Lord of Blood "Temporary truce" and attack Fuzkao. Interact with your shining spot to proceed.
Investigate LoB. Allow the Ritual.

Day 6: "Favour Rodaken dishes". Investigate Lustlord

Day 7: Kill Lustlord fuck Esthera.

The results from these choices ended in the best results from the Succubus Council across the board. The calculator says I am one point shy of getting the slavery treaty but I did in fact get it.

Fulminato

PopeBiscuit ok, pehaps i think to undestrand why, can you share your calculator save?

{checked calculator save}

as i was thinking you wrongly send the succubus in anak room to the lustlord and not to the empress.
{"id":"second-gathering-third-anak","value":"lustlord"}

ril0s

Small issue, I double checked I'm using the latest calc version; The checkbox "Ask Janine for Information on Her Late Husband" in the Devil's Pass, Yhilin Investigation and Coup section gives a flat +5. This is actually a choice ingame where the correct option is to NOT ask about her husband for the +5, then talk to her again before leaving Yhillin in chapter 2 for another +5, which is missing. So at that point, the calc is showing Janine at 65, which is not a glitch just a missed choice, while my ingame rp is at 70. I don't think it actually matters on my route but might for others

Fulminato

ril0s if you don't select that box. because you don't ask janine about her late husband in chapter 1, the rp bonus in the time skip and the option to talk with her about the late king will appear in the next section. as it should be.

the calculator shoudl show all the (legit) choice you can do in game, even the subtimal one.

ril0s

Fulminato Yep it's actually fine, I missed that.

Fulminato

v0.13.0: https://www.mediafire.com/file/7y1owravdhkq0r8/Calculator.0.13.0.rar/file

The main dish is the incubus war, with the prison in the end. The event was a monster to code for the branching paths and interchangeable scene. This should work as intended, but... I'm expecting some problems are fixed or addressed. Because Lilith RP calculation checks the tormented shield I added the relative option in the deep maze inside the stenai trip section. You must check it after loading a save from a previous version (the save are fully compatible). I added the missing tanurak pure optional fights in Chapter 5 Second Investment Phase.

I rephrased the line about the disguised succubus in Stineford's Brothel in chapter 1. I hope the new formulation is more clear. I have not found the energy or the time to add the tooltip and full math calculation in the missing section. Erosia prelude is the only real section lacking any clear report on the math beyond the check and the events, the successive sections aren't in line with the tooltip/math convention the rest of the calculator had now, but most of the math is still reported.

v0.13.0 Change Log:

Added Incubus War
Added Incubus Prison
Fixed some tooltip error in the slavery change petition in 3AW aftermath conference chamber
Add an Input Field for Recover the Tormented Shield in the Deep Maze portion of "Stenai Trip" Section
Add missing Tanurak Fight done in Second Chapter Five Investment Phase.
Reprhased the two lines about the disguised Succubus in Stineford's Brothel in chapter 1 for more clarity.

Full Changelog: https://pastebin.com/93Jzhp55

everafter

The wiki claims that researching demonic understanding prior to the incubus war will reduce the IW_Nyst score by -1.

"IW_Nyst -1 if you already did the demonic research"

The calculator does not include this. Which one is correct?

Fulminato

everafter the wiki, i totaly forgot it.

i will wait one or two days if someone report other problem and will put a new release

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