Optimization Tool for Battle of Yhilin (by XOyOyOx): http://www.mediafire.com/file/fdqg8ub1fnj2437/BoY.rar/file Investment calculation tool (by Kx1st, continued by Fulminato) [v0.52.2 ca.]: http://www.mediafire.com/file/2nb5sat3fx597af/Investments_vFulminato.1.2.1.rar/file Investment calculation tool (continued by BlobbyBob): https://www.mediafire.com/file/g9j2hxt2eir3a4o/InvestmentsCalculatorTLS.zip/file 3rd Arclent War calculation tool (by Fulminato): http://www.mediafire.com/file/3hpsjbr6nxc57h5/3AW+1.5.rar/file Synod Calculator (by Fulminato): http://www.mediafire.com/file/a1126jjqemmuecf/Synod+2.8.rar/file BetatesterFP Calculator (by BetatesterFP) [v0.20.2]: http://www.mediafire.com/file/2fx4etlxz455q18/BetatesterFP.rar/file Relationship points overview too (by Kx1st)l: http://www.mediafire.com/file/su1hrgbqjc2kfle/TLS-wikia-RP-Parser_v_0_3.zip/file Full game Calculator (by Fulminato): https://thelastsovereign.flarum.cloud/d/15-calculator/ Investment Planner (by Arachne/Rachnera): https://thelastsovereign.flarum.cloud/d/76-investment-advisor-for-chapter-4 Resurce Missing: Damage calculator table and enemy data table (by Thormented)

xaxilas296 It took me quite some time, but I updated the investment calculator as good as I can. Since I have no mediafire account I put it up on gofile, but someone is welcome to reupload it and add the link to the first post. It includes the latest return round of TLS build 0.60.x. https://gofile.io/d/H3aPN0 There are a few things I'm not happy with, but in general it should work quite well. Otherwise I'm happy to fix whatever bugs/errors I can fix. The following things can be optimized but I'm unable to do so myself: The follow-up hidden stat gains through Tak'Kan/New Givini/Chalice States Trade (+1 for every round) aren't implemented. The initial amount of +5 country score works. The latter chapters are a huge mess to go through because of the sheer amount of investments. If there were separate tables for separate countries/areas or at least different colours for the description that would greatly help. Whenever hidden stats or relationship points are gained through the use of an extra option (checkboxes and dropdown menus at the top) they will only be counted for the round they are ticked/selected in (ProN gained through extra options is not affected). Since the tool worked this way even before I updated it I have no idea how to change it.

BlobbyBob At the first glance: Stineford Magic Shop doesn't return profit from chapter 4 onward. Both old and new version has Ardford Restaurant's returns set to 25 one iteration earlier than it can possibly be if you invest in Givini Teahouse Chain earlier than "After Tower dephts" iteration. Stineford Farmstead Repair's variants doesn't disappear from the list in later iterations after investing in one of them. Zirantia City Slums Renovation costs 2kk even if you chose "Support no one" option. Erosian Trader returns incorrectly showed in the second column of "Return of each Round" and, as a result, in th ROI part of the table, but the actual sum of the available funds seems to be calculated correctly. Chalice Warehouse Donation doesn't accepted in chapter 5 (or after reaching some threshhold in Chalice States score, I'm not sure). Eustrin Boost still in the list even if Eustrin Final achieved in the previous iteration. For that matter "Final Eustrin state achieved" field persist even if It was checked in the earlier iteration. I think there should be option to give three succubi in Climax Cafe 10k Pron. Isn't Threesome Reform investment unavailable until you give them money? Also, there is no option to take Stineford mine as an asset (and thus It's profit isn't included) and Iris' Sewing Operation is missing too.

Raiker Thank you for the feedback! Will take a few days to fix, but at first glance: Magic Shop: missing returns, easily fixed. Ardford Restaurant: Wrong round in the function, easily fixed. Farmstead Repair: tested the variants, if you select Orcs it should work fine. The other two seem wrong somewhere, but I think I can get it done. Zirantia City Slums: Missed a rename, easily fixed. Erosian Trader: Can you clarify that for me? I'm not entirely sure what's wrong here. Chalice Warehouse Donation: Easily fixed, but I don't know the correct behaviour either since I can't find it in the Wiki. If someone knows, please do tell. Eustrin: Right now the Eustrin Boost is an independent investment, the Eustrin Final checkbox is only there for the cost of the Eustrin Guild in later rounds. I'm not sure if I can implement an "elegant" solution where I can check multiple boxes in one go for those two investments, but I will give it a try. Climax Cafe: It's been a while since I played the Second Gathering so I don't remember this section clearly and I didn't read anything about that in the wiki. If someone can clarify on the behaviour, then I can implement it! Stineford Mine/Iris: I can add both, but I do not know how high the returns for the Stineford mine should be. Would you happen to know the value?

External Tools List

Fulminato

Optimization Tool for Battle of Yhilin (by XOyOyOx): http://www.mediafire.com/file/fdqg8ub1fnj2437/BoY.rar/file
Investment calculation tool (by Kx1st, continued by Fulminato) [v0.52.2 ca.]: http://www.mediafire.com/file/2nb5sat3fx597af/Investments_vFulminato.1.2.1.rar/file
Investment calculation tool (continued by BlobbyBob): https://www.mediafire.com/file/g9j2hxt2eir3a4o/InvestmentsCalculatorTLS.zip/file
3rd Arclent War calculation tool (by Fulminato): http://www.mediafire.com/file/3hpsjbr6nxc57h5/3AW+1.5.rar/file
Synod Calculator (by Fulminato): http://www.mediafire.com/file/a1126jjqemmuecf/Synod+2.8.rar/file
BetatesterFP Calculator (by BetatesterFP) [v0.20.2]: http://www.mediafire.com/file/2fx4etlxz455q18/BetatesterFP.rar/file
Relationship points overview too (by Kx1st)l: http://www.mediafire.com/file/su1hrgbqjc2kfle/TLS-wikia-RP-Parser_v_0_3.zip/file
Full game Calculator (by Fulminato): https://thelastsovereign.flarum.cloud/d/15-calculator/
Investment Planner (by Arachne/Rachnera): https://thelastsovereign.flarum.cloud/d/76-investment-advisor-for-chapter-4

Resurce Missing:

Damage calculator table and enemy data table (by Thormented)

Decanter

Thanks, this will be useful while we're still moving content and fixing broken links.

Fulminato

I don't know why, but i lose the ability to edit the open post, i find the relationship points overview tool with enough rummage in my pc (http://www.mediafire.com/file/su1hrgbqjc2kfle/TLS-wikia-RP-Parser_v_0_3.zip/file), if decanter (or any other with the permission to edit post) can add to the list will be appreciated

Dmitry

Fulminato I fixed the setting that prevented you from editing and edited your post anyway.

Fulminato

Dmitry now works... strange. basicaly the "three dot button" after "reply" was missing in my first post, but any other post were ok. it's double strange because i edited the post once.

Dmitry

Fulminato it was set to not allow edits after someone replied by default. I presume to prevent people from deleting their original statements after the fact.

xaxilas296

Hey, can someone update the investment calculator tool pretty please? I think its a lot easier to plan with it, than with the full calculator, as i'm always paranoid that when i experimentally change something in earlier chapters, i would have to redo everything from then onward and missing some things.

In either case, thanks in advance and keep up the good work!

BlobbyBob

xaxilas296

It took me quite some time, but I updated the investment calculator as good as I can. Since I have no mediafire account I put it up on gofile, but someone is welcome to reupload it and add the link to the first post. It includes the latest return round of TLS build 0.60.x.

https://gofile.io/d/H3aPN0

There are a few things I'm not happy with, but in general it should work quite well. Otherwise I'm happy to fix whatever bugs/errors I can fix. The following things can be optimized but I'm unable to do so myself:

The follow-up hidden stat gains through Tak'Kan/New Givini/Chalice States Trade (+1 for every round) aren't implemented. The initial amount of +5 country score works.
The latter chapters are a huge mess to go through because of the sheer amount of investments. If there were separate tables for separate countries/areas or at least different colours for the description that would greatly help.
Whenever hidden stats or relationship points are gained through the use of an extra option (checkboxes and dropdown menus at the top) they will only be counted for the round they are ticked/selected in (ProN gained through extra options is not affected). Since the tool worked this way even before I updated it I have no idea how to change it.

Fulminato

BlobbyBob mediafire account are free, i haven't check the tool myself, but added a mirror in the open post

Raiker

BlobbyBob At the first glance:

Stineford Magic Shop doesn't return profit from chapter 4 onward.
Both old and new version has Ardford Restaurant's returns set to 25 one iteration earlier than it can possibly be if you invest in Givini Teahouse Chain earlier than "After Tower dephts" iteration.
Stineford Farmstead Repair's variants doesn't disappear from the list in later iterations after investing in one of them.
Zirantia City Slums Renovation costs 2kk even if you chose "Support no one" option.
Erosian Trader returns incorrectly showed in the second column of "Return of each Round" and, as a result, in th ROI part of the table, but the actual sum of the available funds seems to be calculated correctly.
Chalice Warehouse Donation doesn't accepted in chapter 5 (or after reaching some threshhold in Chalice States score, I'm not sure).
Eustrin Boost still in the list even if Eustrin Final achieved in the previous iteration. For that matter "Final Eustrin state achieved" field persist even if It was checked in the earlier iteration.
I think there should be option to give three succubi in Climax Cafe 10k Pron. Isn't Threesome Reform investment unavailable until you give them money?

Also, there is no option to take Stineford mine as an asset (and thus It's profit isn't included) and Iris' Sewing Operation is missing too.

BlobbyBob

Raiker

Thank you for the feedback! Will take a few days to fix, but at first glance:

Magic Shop: missing returns, easily fixed.
Ardford Restaurant: Wrong round in the function, easily fixed.
Farmstead Repair: tested the variants, if you select Orcs it should work fine. The other two seem wrong somewhere, but I think I can get it done.
Zirantia City Slums: Missed a rename, easily fixed.
Erosian Trader: Can you clarify that for me? I'm not entirely sure what's wrong here.
Chalice Warehouse Donation: Easily fixed, but I don't know the correct behaviour either since I can't find it in the Wiki. If someone knows, please do tell.
Eustrin: Right now the Eustrin Boost is an independent investment, the Eustrin Final checkbox is only there for the cost of the Eustrin Guild in later rounds. I'm not sure if I can implement an "elegant" solution where I can check multiple boxes in one go for those two investments, but I will give it a try.
Climax Cafe: It's been a while since I played the Second Gathering so I don't remember this section clearly and I didn't read anything about that in the wiki. If someone can clarify on the behaviour, then I can implement it!
Stineford Mine/Iris: I can add both, but I do not know how high the returns for the Stineford mine should be. Would you happen to know the value?

Raiker

BlobbyBob Erosian Trader: Can you clarify that for me? I'm not entirely sure what's wrong here.

When investment listed in the table, It show it's returns from which when calculated Returns on Investments (ROI). For Erosian Trader, even if you choose "Erosian score more than 40" option in every Round the returns of the second round of invetments displayed as 150k Pron instead of 250k. But that issue seems to affect only ROI calculations, while the actual funds, available for the spending, calculated correctly.

BlobbyBob Chalice Warehouse Donation: Easily fixed, but I don't know the correct behaviour either since I can't find it in the Wiki. If someone knows, please do tell.

Personally, I'm not too sure myself, It just It does disappear at some point.

BlobbyBob Climax Cafe: It's been a while since I played the Second Gathering so I don't remember this section clearly and I didn't read anything about that in the wiki...

https://thelastsovereign.miraheze.org/wiki/Walkthrough#Climax_and_the_Orgasmic_Palace
First paragraph: "In the cafe you can reunite with three succubi you may have met during Simon's Route that unlocks an investment opportunity. If you invest, you have the option of suggesting they stay in the Orgasmic Empire or move to the Chalice States."
It just doesn't list the cost (10k Pron). Also, and I may be wrong here, but I think without giving them money you will not unlock Threesome Reform investment.

BlobbyBob Stineford Mine/Iris: I can add both, but I do not know how high the returns for the Stineford mine should be. Would you happen to know the value?

Stineford Mine as asset gives you 50k Pron each round. Iris' sewing gives you 75k/100k per round depending on how you've done her quest.

Fulminato

BlobbyBob Chalice Warehouse Donation: Easily fixed, but I don't know the correct behaviour either since I can't find it in the Wiki. If someone knows, please do tell.

aviable only in chapter 4.

BlobbyBob

Alright, I've addressed all the issues. Still not completely confident in the solution with the Erosian Trader, but it should work better than before.

https://gofile.io/d/UADyCS

Raiker

BlobbyBob Ardford Restaurant still give 25k Pron one iteration too early. In the calculator it's before the Council ("After Tower Dephts" iteration), while in the game it's only possible before the Erosian War ("After 2nd Stenai visit" iteration). Erosian Trader still have incorrect ROI calculations. Iris' quest average result can be achieved at least one iteration earlier than the best result, making it overall more profitable in the long run.

BlobbyBob

Raiker

Fixed the Ardford Restaurant. The problem was that it was originally not one round off, but several. I've set it so that it can only give 25k ProN starting from "After 2nd Stenai visit" now.

I can move Iris' quest easily, but I need to know what's the earliest point for it. Is it immediately available in the first section of chapter 5?

Found one more error in the Erosian Trader calculation, it's a tricky investment. I hope it works now. I tried multiple combinations for its outcome and I don't see any other error at the moment.

Will upload again after I know the right position for Iris' quest.

EternalObserver

BlobbyBob You can theoretically get the regular result of Iris's Quest during the first Chapter 5 investment phase, thereby getting a 75k ProN payout during the second investment phase. You cannot get the "better" result in the quest until the second Chapter 5 investment phase due to the inability to access Climax and Denlak, and and since you can't visit more stores after finalizing the quest, it seems like the lesser result is actually better unless we'll be getting three more ProN payouts in Chapter 5.

BlobbyBob

EternalObserver

Thank you very much! Here's the updated version: https://gofile.io/d/klAwWK

Please let me know if you find any other bugs or errors, will reply/fix when I got the time.

brywav

BlobbyBob
Do you have a working link to your updated calculator? The gofile link you posted above is dead at the moment.

BlobbyBob

brywav I edited the link so it should work again. Sorry for the late reply! Feel free to upload it to a different site where the file stays up as well, I just don't want to create a Mediafire account I'll most likely never use.