Q&A Thosha's playthrough

cgh

Thosha Glad to help. And you are right; 43K experience will have a large impact on many where the Chapter 1 deferrals will not.

swears

Thosha To throw in my 2 cents, I'd say keep it in Chapter. I'm assuming skipping them would not make you miss an Experience Level check for Simon during the wars (or anyone else though dont remember any besides Simon), but even then those few hundred xps or so probably matter more when you're at Level 30 or so vs whether Ginasta get them at level 80. Plus just game play. It's no fun just to go in totally overpowered and blast Chapter 2 level enemies with end game xp levels and gear

Thosha

The guide has been succesfully updated, most notable changes are that:

Ina sex scene gotten from chapter 1
Didn't buy Orc Potion during Yarra's Path (instead used the Huge Health Potion from Aka's path)
Married Luanell to Farnan instead of being single
Delayed some monster combat in Erosian crisis for more Party Exp
Made airship trade with Ghenalon instead of Eustrin
Got ALL the best country scores for Vhala's quest (except Aram but it only requires some very light changes in Eustrin Final)

swears

Thosha Wow, you totally started over then...

Thosha

swears Yes, the Ina sex scene and Orc Potion have been a while on my to do list and I've been looking for ways to get all country scores for Vhala's quest (which are now all obtainable). Furthermore, I wanted to do some polishing in the earlier chapters to make it easier to follow.

cgh

Thosha In your playthrough, you switched the order of Yarra, Aka and Megail's Paths after the battle of the Dark Ruin in Chapter 2. You used to have Yarra's route first, but now it comes last. Is there a reason why you switched the order?

Thosha

cgh yes, during Yarra's path in order not to have to buy an orc potion you need a huge health potion. You recieve this during Aka's quest

cgh

Thosha Excellent observation. I've yet to use any large or huge health potions, all the times I've played. Instead, I've simply sold all the regular health potions, keeping only the mana potions and a few of the others. I've yet to find a need for any of the health potions, antidotes or serums. So I immediately sell them off. I also immediately sell off all the old Iron equipment, and by the end of Chapter 3 I've sold off all of the Steel weaponry and armour as well.

cgh

Thosha I've found what may be a failure in the playthrough. In Chapter 2 Yarra's Route, it states:
"Orgasmic Rogue 2 defensive (both have to hit first try), 3 piercing attacks (4.5-5k HP)
Ghenalese Orc Mage 1 aggressive, 1 defensive, 1 aggressive
Arclentian Warlord Huge Health Potion, 2 defensive, 3 piercing, 1 defensive, 4 piercing attacks
Rodak Elite Lose"

Even with hits exactly when needed, it auto-fails. The Arclentian Warlord kills you before you can use the Huge Health Potion. You are too slow before he strikes and you never get to the round with the Rodak Elite.

Thosha

cgh Yes, you have to be somewhat lucky, if you have a suggestion of how to better do this fight with the resources available I'm open for it (consumebles that are in inventory are fair game)

cgh

Thosha Let me work on it a bit. The problem is that the Huge Health Potion is too slow. And the remaining Health potions add too little to Orcent's health to heal him up by delaying the previous two fights. At least part of the problem is the Orc Mage getting in the first shot during the previous fight before the Warlord. That does so much damage that you can't live through Warlord's first shot.

I will get back to you.

swears

cgh The orc fights are the worst

cgh

swears Agreed. Which is why I intend to find a solution to it tomorrow. When I do, if I do, I will post it here in this forum thread.

Thosha

cgh Did you manage to find a better way to do the Orcent fights?

cgh

Thosha No. My one successful attempt required a number of missed attacks by the Orc Mage and the Rogue. I still had to use up nearly all of the Health Goos. It's not really a solution if you have to rely on missed attacks.

Thosha

Yes, I'd rather rely on Orcent not missing rather than them missing.

cgh

Thosha A small correction. On the visit to Eustrin, Chapter III, Tunnel Excavation, it states "Simon Exp: 337,41".

I think that should be "Simon Exp: 337,241".

cgh

Thosha Thosha, there are two effects from delaying many of the monster encounters in the Erosian Crisis. Indeed it provides an extra 43,000 Exp to the rest of the harem combat members. However, it also has a very large effect in making the particular battles in Zirantia, Aram and Takkan Tower areas much easier. In some of them, there is some risk of running short of MP. This is particularly true in Zirantia where the three characters can have a very tough time against the two Solidified Chaos.

So well done for finding this out. There are NO downsides whatsoever.

Mack

During Eleanis quest in chapter 5 I ran into 2 problems. One is when chatting with Neranda there was only the initial dialogue and no extra. Secondly when entering Farnans room it did not produce any dialogue. Wasn't sure if this was due to the game recently being updated. But it left me at 97%.

Btw thank you for putting all this together. I know it's a lot of work and I really appreciate the guide!

Thosha

Mack Yes, the first talk with Neranda is automatic and is wbout Warden of the South and the other is maxing her RP.
I did an update about 2 months ago where I made some minor changes in chapter 4 which allowed getting by with only "Light Influence", this saves some Arclent Acceptance. It is however not required since Arclent Acceptance is already crazy high. If you didn't do the last changes (which again don't change much) you can just use "Moderate Influence". The rest of the run shouldn't change much (or nothing important at least).

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