Optimized save file for chapter 5

Kebler

Hi,

If you have I am looking for an optimized file before second gathering, or at any point in chapter 5, I didn't got "the orcs' hidden stats are modified one more time based on Simon's relationship with Balia. A score of 70 or higher means that the orcs gain an additional +1 to Sapience, Attractiveness, and Magic." and I am missing shining sword other than point for best results.
other relevant choices I did: saner altina, vara reshaped, support no one in zirantia, hermin promoted, succubi joined and accepted church and other good thing.
Or there is a way to modify the save file and add that bonus? I prefer this if possible

I modified the file, my initial stats for orc where 12-12-12-7-5-5; i read in the second gathering wiki page that max legit value for last 3 are 8-5-5; so if i modify to 10 7 6, the game can read it as cheating?
But reading wikia page I understood that with all orc you have 5-4-3 then you get +1 with balia improvement, +1 with balia with >70 RP and then +3/+1/+2 during chapter 4; so the final value of 10-7-6.
But probably is a mine misunderstand because I initially missed implevon the third and so i have -1 sapience than max legit value.

TheShadyOne

No.
The table under "Stats - Totals" in the Orc breeding wiki page is somewhat misleading. It states "These don't include the improvements the player chooses with Balia.", which would relate to improvements in strength, intelligence or discipline. But those values (5-4-3) for sapience, attractiveness and magic are the maximum that you can achieve before chapter 4 - already accounting for possible benefits from Orc research and Balia's RP.

Another table above that section demonstrates that the best starting stats you can achieve with all the unique orcs (including Implevon and the Zirantian orc corpse) are 2-2-1. Initiating "Orc Evolution" with Balia will grant +1 to all three stats, and you gain another +1 sapience if you're able to achieve the best result in Orcent's transformation. Thus the total would be 4-3-2 after "Govern Yhilin III". If you then talk to Orcent about the army after returning from Eustrin and have Balia RP≥70, you receive another +1 to these stats, bringing them to the aforementioned 5-4-3. (It's probably safe to assume that - due to the prerequisites involved - your Orc strength/intelligence/discipline would be 9-10-10 at this point, before the Third Arclent War.)

As you stated, the bonuses for the secondary stats in chapter four are +3/+1/+2 (from Patty, the Ghenalese volunteers and the conversation with Stark). So maximum legit values for sapience/attractiveness/magic are in fact 8-5-5 during the beginning of chapter five, and up to the Second Gathering.

This also means that with 7-5-5 you're actually just one (sapience) point short of the optimum. Maybe you missed talking to Implevon in time to achieve the bonus from Orcent's transformation?
I think you'd be relatively "safe" to edit your save file to 8-5-5, but 10-7-6 is definitely beyond what you could achieve in normal gameplay.

Kebler

thanks for the answer. yes, i missed implevon during 3rd arclent war because i maxed 2 times same characteristic, that's why i have 7-5-5. I edited the save file to 8-5-5 and did the standard second gathering route.