Bugs thread

Battlewarrior

So, uh. Not sure if this is a bug or anything, but the shining sword and the incubus king sword do not appear in my inventory after the end of 0.59.3. I wonder if this is intentional or a bug.

Grim8P

Battlewarrior
SL says that it will be handled at the start of 0.60.

Battlewarrior

Thanks a lot.
Ah, sorry. I didn't notice there was a previous question about the exact same thing.

DukeLeto7

DukeLeto7 Well... that took almost a month longer than it really should have. I think I've welded closed every point in both maps where the "base sliding" glitch allows the player to enter tiles without triggering events associated with by pressing W and a direction simultaneously.

Here's the new candidate for a fix to the party switch issue. I'll pass the source files to @Decanter via email presently.

EDIT: We've got some edits from Decanter that considerably simplify the test plan. Files at same links.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/08vbj3mv4zwvaww/TLS_TEST_-_DO_NOT_REDISTRIBUTE.exe/file

Here's the test plan as a Word document.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/044m3gjmeog1x9x/Party_Switch_Test_Plan.docx/file

Notes for testing for @thisgamething:

We just want to make sure that the "base slide" exploit is no longer possible on either map. The list of locations to test includes all known ways to trigger that bug.
In the Ordeal map, if one party is on tiles that a door will spawn on when the other party throws a switch, they are moved to the "inside" of the door during the next party switch. (i.e. the side they came from when they first passed through the door. I realize this is out of scope, but the existing system where the parties clipped through the doors annoyed me.)

SeriousBlueJewel

If you hire the Iron Cudgel during the Reunion they are ordered to go guard the merchant's pass. Setting the [iron Cudgel II] flag

Yet somehow they are able to set the [RETC: Court Guard] flag to true, which prevents the destruction of the court during the Battle of Yhilin. (see Janine's retreat 1F square 003,016) Which is basically hired mercs (other than reunion iron cudgel) guard the court

And in the New Yhilin outskirts map their talk makes it clear that they were busy guarding the pass.

DukeLeto7

I'll pass this on to SL next time I give her a Bugs update, but my suspicion is that this is intentional and the "Court Guard" variable is less about their being there to protect the place as opposed to their NOT being hired by the nobles to help wreck it.

SeriousBlueJewel

DukeLeto7 The text immediately after the [RETC: Court Guard] flag makes me think differently "Simon: I've already commanded the mercenary forces we've hired to join your soldiers. If things go wrong, use them first.".

And Simon sent the freshly hired Iron Cudgel away before knowing that the next thing he was going to do was start the invasion.

SeriousBlueJewel

Also [Iron Cudgel II] has an effect during the Battle for Yhilin in the following location "Throne Room - Aftermath" Square 0,0

DukeLeto7

FYI, even if Sierra did make a mistake here, there's basically zero chance she's going to change the game balance on the Battle of Yhilin to rectify it at this point.

SeriousBlueJewel

DukeLeto7 Oh I understand that I just noted the bug. I kind of which I was a data miner back then to notice the bug, but I was also a minor back then.

DukeLeto7

Sierra says that the behavior is intentional but didn't elaborate further.

AlphaN

Hello - per Sierra's request here (https://the-last-sovereign.blogspot.com/2022/01/tls-0593-public-release.html?showComment=1644289967698#c6714948514476592396) am reposting two strange bugs I've experienced on the Steam version of TLS following the end of the Incubus Prison, as things shifted to the various harem parties:

1) All of my inventory was gone (either destroyed with Last Gasp or did not switch back?)

2) Following the end of the Esthera choices, every harem party suddenly had a level 19 Kai, Chosen of Ivala, leading the way.

I've uploaded save files here if that helps identify the problem: https://easyupload.io/m/6578yl. Save24 is my save right before the end of the Incubus Prison, but I've uploaded the last several as well in case they are needed.

DukeLeto7

AlphaN Not to start off on the wrong foot, but have you undertaken any save editing? It's not that this isn't allowed or doing so invalidates the support warranty, but it's important I know that this is potentially in the mix before going into deep debugging.

SeriousBlueJewel

When talking to the heir of Vinario, and pressing the [invest] option without having done anything to lower his price, no menu shows up.

Reason the [vinario deal] starts at 10, and the lowest of [vinario deal] works with is 9

Fix: change the first line of [vinario offer] commen event to "greater than or equal to".

DukeLeto7

SeriousBlueJewel Have you got Patreon or Blogspot access? Because you're totally allowed to report bugs that you've fully diagnosed yourself in comments directly to SierraLee at one of those two locations.

DukeLeto7

SeriousBlueJewel Actually, I know why this hasn't come up before. Since it's literally impossible to go to Ardford with > ~$2.5M without save editing, the possibility to invest at the level of $5M with a Vinario Deal of 10 doesn't exist and is therefore not coded for. All of the code for values greater than 6 is a cheater's Easter Egg.

Can't hurt to make the check >= instead of ==, though.

SeriousBlueJewel

DukeLeto7 I came from another forum-based community so this is a habit now. (Irrelevant ramblings I would link to it to show you how I worked there, but it got wiped after the game switched from Flash to JS (and I am currently on a break from wiki work there until content parity has been reached)). Also, I won't regularly check these forums so sorry for not replying for 3 days

DukeLeto7 I have had this same bug save file link https://discord.com/channels/896059111106551859/896265291741413406/934475783337046117

AlphaN

DukeLeto7 No worries, it's a fair question given we are on, y'know, the Internet. But no, I have not done any save editing.

DukeLeto7

AlphaN Well. Didn't expect to find something that would make me want to go back to my work PC.

The Party Switching bug is dead, long live the PartySwitch bug!

Sierra's leveraging a 3rd party (ha.) RPG Maker script to create a separate temporary Simon in a separate temporary party designated as party index number 1. This is why the Simon in the incubus prison has completely different stats, skills, XP equips and etc. compared to normal real world Simon, who is (for the purposes of the game engine) an entirely different character.

So what's supposed happen when you switch to guiding Esthera at the end of the incubus prison section, is that you switch back to party index number 0, which is the "default party". SOMEHOW, for you this isn't the actual normal party... It's party you have at the start of the game. The one with Kai and no inventory.

This is probably going to entail me doing a line by line analysis of the third party code module. yay...

Do you remember if you were faffing around in the Withered Mountain map for any reason during any of the Ch4 or Ch5 free roam sections?

In a completely unrelated story I'm declaring that I've waited long enough for @thisgamething to reappear. I'm giving Sierra the current build of the edited Ordeal and IK Castle. I don't think I can cope with having two totally unrelated party switching bugs on my my desk at the same time.

AlphaN

DukeLeto7 Highly likely I swung by Withered Mountain during free roam, yes. I pretty much revisited the entire world during each of those chapters.

DukeLeto7

AlphaN question #2.

When was the last time you restarted the game completely with the installation of TLS you are now using?

AlphaN

DukeLeto7 Somewhere in late December or early January.

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