Calculator

Fulminato

Calculator v0.11.1 [v0.54.2]

v0.11.2: http://www.mediafire.com/file/2yocjjpztki3ozr/Calculator+0.11.2.rar/file

Fix the problem reported by Videospirit and fix an incorrect tooltip for Elleani rp gain during the war for yarra dialogue in gasm's fall section (bug only visual)

Open Post:
The Tool is developed with the goal of being an all-inclusive hidden stats calculator, helping to keep track of all decision/hidden stats for tailoring the 'best' outcome one want for his playthrough. Near all the possibility are implemented, event the suboptimal one [for now there are very few exceptions for some technical problems in the implementation]. any activity without effect in the hidden stats or changing options in the future are omitted (a notable example is the "rick's Familiy" quest) or the extra loot you can obtain from various chests. The tool is still in beta because I don't think is the right shape for a '1.0' release, but all the feature are implemented and working (well, aside for the bugs), the tool lack some polishing (for example, remove Altina RP stamp if she isn't a party member), and there are some 'extra' feature can be implemented, but I am not sure if the gain is enough to compensate the extra works, for example a list for trin copied people and the list of investment at the end of each section. the tool features an option panel with some customization, show or hide the 'result box' for each section, the option to hide each RP values o countrry scores, and the ability to choose between two 'version' for any chapter, the full version is, well, more verbose, but implement a full set of constraining in the thing can be or cannot be done in the game, the 'skipped' version [any advice for a better name is appreciated] try to reduce the number of inputs to the minimum, the two versions are the same in regard of choice and calculation. The skipped version allow 'cheating' some global currency like discretionary funds, personal discrectionary funds, ProN, Trin Copies and Sarai Synod influence. The calculator is an HTML page with JavaScript to handling all the works. It doesn't need any internet connection, external library or extra feature, the code is still crude, and my JS coding skill isn't great, any advice to improve the tool is really appreciated.

Change Log v0.11.2:

Fixed incorrect text for meet luanell and go to the givini ball before/after jhenno confrontation if you agree to collaborate in politics matter
Fixed an incorrect tooltips for elleani rp in yarra dialogue in gasm's fall during the war (bug only visual)

Change Log v0.11.1:

Change Tertia RP Check for joining the harem to benefit of eustrin final rp gains..
Change an incorrect reply in Chapter 2 travel timer.

Change Log v0.11.0:

Add the incursion in the lustlord tower fortress and the second gathering.
Add the numeric tooltips to the first chapter 4 iteration and succession crisis.
Add a link in the bottom of the section to collaps the section itself.
Fix the missing hq magic +2 from complete the tower delving and demonic understanding research projects.
A couple of other fixes i forgot.

Full Changelog: https://pastebin.com/93Jzhp55

zaiaku666

Fulminato there seem to be a few errors. One is that I think there's a missed check in the robin stand during the Thenours War and in the same section the Teraurak check did not count ancient Incubus King glove

Fulminato

zaiaku666 there seem to be a few errors. (1) One is that I think there's a missed check in the robin stand during the Thenours War and in the same section (2) the Teraurak check did not count ancient Incubus King glove

i check but all robin bonus are implemented and working, which would it be the missing check?
Incubus glove (the one recovered in givini ruins) isn't a piece of the ancient IK set key items. the four items are armor [deep cache in devil pass], helm [open the war vaults], shield [riala petition in war aftermath] and pin [complete givini ruins]. the incubus glove grant a +2 in the DK - FL confrontation (zirantia palace entrance)

zaiaku666

Fulminato Error was on my part forgot the political reserve for the IK Shield.

Fulminato

v0.11.0: http://www.mediafire.com/file/rjj69007swl810i/Calculator_0.11.0.rar/file

Add ginasta rescue and the second gathering section. extended the tooltips to cover the first chapter 4 and succession crisis section. [other section pending]

Arachne

I like the new tooltips very much. In general the Calculator, while already incredible good and useful, is only getting better and better. Thanks for the hard work.

Olaroll

I am once again asking if someone has an up-to-date optimized calculator save state?

Fulminato

v0.11.1: http://www.mediafire.com/file/35tqlmuyn3ijkri/Calculator.0.11.1.rar/file

Change Tertia RP Check for joining the harem to benefit of eustrin final rp gains and changed an incorrect reply fro chapter 2 travel timer.

Olaroll i think there are some around, but which kind of run you want?

Olaroll

Fulminato Just a standard min-maxed one. Figured someone's bound to have made one and I'd rather avoid spoilers by not planning it out myself.

Out of curiosity, are there even different kinds? (Without major spoilers after finding a certain giant lady)

Fulminato

Olaroll un/whored qum, save or not carina men, varia/altina 'type', investment in chapter 2, zirantia support, etc...

Cazador

There are choices, like whoring Qum or the Varia choice, which will affect minmaxing in a serious fashion. An optimized Qum-whored playthrough is very different from an optimized not-whored playthrough.

Olaroll

Ah right, forgot that whoring Qum is even an option. Not doing it has always seemed like a no-brainer to me ^_^

Likewise, I've always gone with saner Altina and reshaped Varia.

The_Scoutman

Olaroll I think this will be easier if you make a calculator save with your decisions up to the point where you stopped, upload it here, then someone can fill out the min-max decisions for the newer content. (Although if you are already in chapter 5, things like investments and researches are anyone's guess at this point).

Alternatively, if you followed any kind of guide up to the point where you stopped, you could just say which one it was and we can go from there.

Olaroll

Fulminato No whoring Qum, saner Altina, reshaped Varia, I don't care much about the rest. Just needs to get the most good outcomes while earning as much pron as possible. That should be pretty standard, no?

The_Scoutman I'm planning to replay the whole game anyway, so there wouldn't be much of a point to that.

Videospirit

I've basically always abandoned Carina's Men, and I've taken to doing poorly for Battle of Yhilin Results since there's not a lot of point in doing the best possible results there, only need like 175 army size to max out third arclent war except slime items so you have yhilin budget to spare even if you utterly fail battle of yhilin. If you max out profits up to that point you will have tons of cash for the rest of the game after third arclent war. Still hard to say what decisions will impact the future though, like we don't even know what the consequences of not having sanitation mages endorse Tina are and that was ages ago.

Thosha

Olaroll Otherwise I have made a guide to explain the choices you just described (unwhored Qum, saner Altina, reshaped Varia) called Thosha's playthrough if you are interested.

Fulminato

Olaroll No whoring Qum, saner Altina, reshaped Varia, I don't care much about the rest. Just needs to get the most good outcomes while earning as much pron as possible. That should be pretty standard, no?

"most" and "as much" are vague terms. expecialy without knowing the fallout of some decision. [one of the main unresolved point is the suitor score]. there is "a lot" of room in the definition of "enough good outcome" and "all the investments needed for". sadly.

i usualy don't publish my minmax route before testing it, but i find very little time to play the run lately [i'm just after the elven lands in chapter III) so...:

calculator save: http://www.mediafire.com/file/uqir0m81dr24cx2/FulminatoMinMax_DariOld.json/file
Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/CZuL5uFC

Videospirit Also, it doesn't look like the Elleani RP for speaking with Luanell with 40 social during the succession crises is working in the calculator raising and lowering my social above and below 40 before that had no impact on Elleani rp.

i checked and this don't seem possibile in the code. care to share a save?
[have you set the selector for talking with lunaell before/after farnan confrontation?]

Videospirit The Succubus Tower expansion is only really necessary if you want to seize the Stineford mine for yourself though I think, and that seems completely unnecessary so might have a playthrough where I sacrifice that in the future.

more pron is a better pron. in chapter 5 take an investment with pron return focus with a roi under 20/25% is a waste, so every chance you have to gain more income without using your pron is important to take.

Videospirit

http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=29482931264991026105 This should be close to optimal for unwhored qum saner altina reshaped varia,, although there's definately wiggle room left, and we still don't know the consequences of many choices like who gets the shards. Trin isn't very happy most of the game only getting to max copies 9 but it only uses 7 copy slots anyway.

Also I honestly never have that much use for the extra 15k pron from whoring qum, but it's probably essential to minimizing the impact of keeping Carina's Men alive.

Olaroll

Thank you for the responses, these are a big help! =)

Videospirit

http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=33787978644869980339 changed the first research to sex and purity for the Ginasta RP and optimized the ProN so hardly loses anything compared to the previous file(I could snag another 100,000 pron at most by researching orc diversity there instead).

Also, it doesn't look like the Elleani RP for speaking with Luanell with 40 social during the succession crises is working in the calculator raising and lowering my social above and below 40 before that had no impact on Elleani rp.

I can't seem to figure out any way to open the ruins before the war and buy the succubus tower expansion before the war, so probably no way to get the construct bodies Sabitha RP bonus if you choose the balia orc sphere instead of the sanctity plate, and the orc sphere is mandatory for perfect second gathering.

The Succubus Tower expansion is only really necessary if you want to seize the Stineford mine for yourself though I think, and that seems completely unnecessary so might have a playthrough where I sacrifice that in the future.

Edit: Found the way to get construct bodies without sacrificing anything but some ProN http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=09082720969372663934

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